JUDITH MILNER and PATRICK O'BYRNE are both freelance brief therapists with the Northope Hall Trust Counselling Scheme for young people who have experienced violence, school children with emotional and behavioural problems, adults with mental health problems and substance abuse. They also work with the Kirklees Domestic Violence/Northope Hall Trust domestic violence scheme which provides counselling for men and women who are violent to their partners. Judith also provides training in solution focussed and narrative therapies for a wide range of professionals. Patrick is also a family mediator with the West Yorkshire Family Mediation Service. JUDITH MILNER and PATRICK O'BYRNE are both freelance brief therapists with the Northope Hall Trust Counselling Scheme for young people who have experienced violence, school children with emotional and behavioural problems, adults with mental health problems and substance abuse. They also work with the Kirklees Domestic Violence/Northope Hall Trust domestic violence scheme which provides counselling for men and women who are violent to their partners. Judith also provides training in solution focussed and narrative therapies for a wide range of professionals. Patrick is also a family mediator with the West Yorkshire Family Mediation Service.