This is a transcription of a three day, eighteen hour seminar Eigen gave in Seoul in 2009. It takes forward and complements the Seoul seminar in 2007. The author uses parts of W.R. Bion's and D.W. Winnicott's texts as points of departure for some of the explorations in the seminar and draw from his own work as well, weaving clinical and cultural concerns, the state of our persons and nations, how we feel, get along with ourselves, and obstacles that dog us but are widely undefined or defined wrongly. He concludes that if psychoanalysis has taught us anything, it is that we are persecuted by our own nature, which finds voice and resonance in structures of the outside world.